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politics. we're going to be talking about this until the election is over. joe biden versus paul ryan, the first and only vice presidential -- the first and only vice presidential debate is just four days away. athena jones previews the ryan/biden match-up and looks at standout moments from previous vice presidential debates now. >> reporter: who could forget that wink. then-governor sarah palin winking during her 2008 debate with fellow vice presidential nominee joe biden. not just once, but some half a dozen times. then there's senator lloyd benson's dig at senator dan quayle in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: memorable moments, but hardly game-changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates like this week's upcoming match-up between vice president biden and his gop challenger paul ryan, are a different animal. >> you need to be able to see that each vice presidential candidate has hit the standard of readiness, that they will be ready in an emergency
to lose his voice. however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign. welcome to both of you. kar karen, to quote jack nicholson in "a few good men" romney and ryan, they just can't handle the truth can they? >> they can't. the level of intellectual dishonesty, i use the wort intellectual half joking, they took the vice president's comments and truncated them without the most important part, which has been the most important part of what the president has been talking about, what democrats have been talking about, and that is the idea that those at the top should be doing their fair share, and that's something that i guess all of the sudden now romney and ryan, the
blind in its incompetence. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been buried the last four years. >> let me bring in dan rather, anchor and editor of dan rather reports and national journal's white house correspondent. good morning. let's address that video right off the bat. robert gibbs was asked this morning if he's worried about the optics of it. here's what he said. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina, i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate to do that. but look, i am, i have to say i'm a little amazed that as you mentioned, a widely covered speech, likely by people at your network, is somehow caused a cur fluff l five years later. >> i love that. so, dan, i guess question is there is no doubt about this fact that it was covered. it was open to the public. it was talked about during that time. is it smart of the republican p
to be the words of the distinguished vice president of the united states, mr. joe biden. no, don't boo. he's the best thing we got going, guys. >> and how's this for trail mix? mitt romney got more than he bargained for when he posed at chipotle after ordering a burrito bowl in a photo op that's an internet sensation. good day, andrea mitchell live in denver at the site of tonight's presidential debate, the first time in five years that barack obama and mitt romney are going to be face-to-face in what the local newspaper is headlining as the duel in denver. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com. first of all, this, the big face-off, let's talk about the state of the race. we have new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll numbers showing a slight tightening in the race. fou looks as though mitt romney is in the national polls slightly narrowing the gap. other problems within those numbers, problems for romney. >> yeah. i mean first of all let me say i love duel in denver. i'm a big fan of that one. i think andrea, look, las
changer. and jared bernstein, msnbc contributor and former chief economist for vice president joe biden. bb, let me start with you. what are your thoughts? >> first of all, romney won a victory that was a victory of performance art built on a whole set of lies. i think people have counted up to 28 to 30 lies. and i actually think the president deserves some credit for at a couple of critical points holding romney accountable. it's a big victory to get romney to own voucher care as a replacement for medicare and the president also took romney on when he said no one over 65 will be affected because of the rebeautiful obamacare in fact as the president pointed out, seniorses will pay $600 more for prescription drugs and the medicare trust if you said will expire eight years sooner. secondly the president talked straight to 50 and 55-year-olds and said do you really want to replace medded care with voucher care? romney is now lashed to the idea. >> he definitely did. jared, let me go into the facts about the $5 trillion tax plan that romney all of a sudden got amnesia about last night. the
, it is joe biden's job to never let us forget about it. let's listen to him this weekend in florida. >> the american people are so much better, so much stronger, take so much more responsibility than these guys give him request for. how can governor romney have such a profound misunderstanding to the people of this country? folks, i've got news for governor romney. i've got news for congressman ryan. america is neither in decline and it's never been a good bet to bet against the american people. they have never let this country down. >> all right, joe biden seems to know exactly how to use that 47% comment to the greatest effect. >> big ups to joe biden for rocking the polo shirt. i can't think of the last time someone on a ticket has made such a bold choice. look at the contrast here between joe biden who's setting the issues on the table and paul ryan who frankly doesn't look very gracious when you're asked about missteps on the ticket, if you want to do anything, and i think this is communications and politics 101, if you want to do anything talk about your own missteps. you're t
joe biden said today in north carolina. team fox coverage from the trail coming up here a bit later on the fox report. first, a virtual army of border patrol agents, sheriffs investigators and the f.b.i. now combing the mexican border to find who ever shot and killed one of their own. it happened earlier today near the town of naco, southeast of tucson in a known drug smuggling corridor there. three border patrol agents were together when the shooting happened. the agent who died is nicholas ivy, 30 years old. another of the agents wounded, but expected to survive, and a third was unhurt. >> the f.b.i. is at the scene is investigating and is going to get to the bottom of this. >> all of this now not far from the border patrol station named for brian terry, the last agent fatally shot in the line of duty. investigators found guns linked to the failed weapons sting operation fast and furious at the scene where he died in 2010. william lajeunesse with the news live tonight in los angeles. william? >> bill, naco is a small, quiet border town until the sun goes down. for years it was the
on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remaining two debates between president obama and mitt romney. >> in terms of thursday's debate, did the president's performance at all during that make the vp debate more vitticcal? critical? >> increased pressure on joe biden. for democrats to get in a very good performance and you ent up looking, paul rye sn a very well-spoken person, although this is going to be his first debate on a stage like this. joe biden has done this many times before. he actually might have a little advantage. as we all know sometimes joe biden is saying things that actually draw attention. so i do think that this is going to be a must-see debate for the country, and, of course, the obama campaign is hoping for a little better performance. >> very gracious way to talk about things that the vice president said in the past. mark murray, thank you very much. >> thanks, alex. >>> in this week's office politic, christy todd whitman, first to defeat an uncome bent governor in an election. today new jersey's only female governor. talks chris christie a
of debate can we expect there between joe biden and paul ryan? >> fii think if you ask a lot o republican folks, they're looking forward to this more so than presidential debate. they think they have a rock star in paul ryan. he'll have the opportunity to be fully unleashed in that 90-minute session with joe biden. one of the things he said to chris wallace today is he's not a line guy. he's not going to try to razzle-dazzle you with some line that sounds like it's been coined and in his back pocket for a month and a half. he's going to talk about the policies he and mitt romney want to put into play. he knows that vice president biden is going to come after him on his medicare and budget. >> how's he going to respond? >> they're ready. they want to be able to make the case to the american people that the real threat to medicare and its future is the president's affordable health care act, which they lovingly refer to as obamacare, and the fact that the president's plan extracts $716 million away to pay for that. what paul ryan isn't telling his supporters is that his budget proposal also
to do that, both of you, anything like that? yes? >> look at you -- >> go ahead, jen. >> joe biden -- just don't be joe biden and try and crush the middle class. the middle class has gotten buried. >> oh, no, no, no. i wanted a direct answer. >> we agree with joe biden and the middle class has gotten buried and my candidate is going to tell you -- >> okay. i'm going leave it there. it is your job to try to make your case. you tried to do it. but i will say, i hope there is some advice to the candidates about, you know, the nose in the air thing, kind of snooty thing that people can do. anyway. okay. our fourth story out. the candidates hoping to bring their a game tomorrow night. can they sway enough voters to swing the election? we checked in with our independent political strike team and the result, 73% yes, 27% no. so they do think that these debates can sway enough people to swing the election. that's a really crucial thing to say, everybody, because we're hearing that only 5, 6% of americans are undecided. so you might think mathematically there aren't enough undecided people
do. >>> the presidential candidates are prepping for tomorrow's big debate. joe biden in north carolina and paul ryan on a bus tour in iowa. last night he was in dubuque. the first time at a public campaign event he delivered this line. >> the choice is clear, and here is what we are doing. we are entering the debate phase, the choice phase of this campaign. this choice is ever so clear. >> speaking of choice, has mitt romney's choice of paul ryan paid off? let's ask republican strategist and former gingrich campaign senior advisor david winston and nbc latino contributor, a senior fellow at the university of texas. good morning to both of you. will mitt romney have to and be able to defend paul ryan's budget plan at the debate tomorrow? >> clearly, the selection of paul ryan was an intent to give, sort of fill out this alternative. how was mitt romney going to be an alternative to whatever president obama's policies were. that was a strategic shift from it being just simply a referendum on the president. it's not, it wasn't so much does he have to defend everything paul ryan d
benefits and now they say to us, no, no, no, joe, we don't have that plan anymore. >> could joe biden be more effective will florida than paul ryan than that medicare message he duft jifred. . >> there is the state where that has one of the oldest populations in the u.s., it is the state where democrat also use paul ryan's budget plan most aggressively against the -- we're also seeing it in the senate race down there and a bunch of house races down there, democrats really think that's the way to drive a wedge between republicans and seniors who have been -- there's a larger question here and this gets to the problem of mitt romney's pass to president obama's 270 electoral votes. one of the most conservative swing states that president obama won back in 2008. the amount of money that both campaigns are throwing at this state, it's very clear that nobody has put it away yet, and in fact that obama leads most of the polls. if some of these swing states aren't going to -- >> well, dana, they sent paul ryan to the major league state of ohio and he was talking about medicare while come pain
to vice president joe biden and a man who eats numbers for breakfast. jared, we mention mr. ryan's problems with the math, so please take a listen. >> you're the master of the budget, so briefly lets go through the plan. >> i don't know exactly when it balances because we haven't -- i don't want to get wonky on you but we haven't run the numbers on that specific plan. >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math but -- >> paul ryan says he doesn't have the time to explain his budget but we do. so you tell us, does it add up? >> no, it doesn't. and the problem that he's having basically is that of two plus two doesn't equal five no matter how much time you have. the issue here, and we've talked about this before, the nonpartisan tax policy center figured out the following. if you cut the tax rates on the top 1% by 20% as mitt romney has proposed and you close all of their loopholes to try to make up the difference, there's just not enough revenue in all of those loophole closures to pay for the cut in the
night, how would you advise him to get his mojo back? >> i find it ironic they have been holding joe biden back. be careful what you say now and now they need him to go out there to do the knock-out punch and lay it on the line for the mid class. he will do that. vice president biden is undoubtedly an intelligent man. he knows his material and he is not going to back down whatsoever. and there's a lot of target-rich environment in the holes that have been offered by the ryan plan. so i think the first thing is, let's get a great vice presidential debate and reset the stage for the president to come out and get after it again. >> ed, thank you so much. we love when we can get you in here early in the morning. >> i like it. it's good to be here. i know a lot of liberals in this country are frustrated right now. this is a bump in the road. it's not a redirect. >> ed schultz, catch him weeknights here on msnbc at 8:00 p.m. he plays for politics. thank you. >>> i just want to point out we are paying attention to what's going on in denver right now with a president obama rally scheduled fo
-see tv. >> it will be, joe biden is a very skilled debater. he's been at this for a long time. he's a very good on his feet. and paul ryan is a very bright guy. he'll do a great job in this debate. but it's going to be quite, quite a battle. >> chris, do you think that last question, do you think that the vice presidential debate. this week, does it, does it take on even more importance considering what happened in colorado for the democrats last week? >> yeah. i mean absolutely. here's what i think has happened since the debate. you know the media now is focused on these debate performances and to a large extent, even the public is focused on these debate performan performances. so going into the vice presidential debate did you're the obama campaign from democrats' perspective, we not only want to do well, we want to be able to go on the offense and disabuse ryan of any of his facts or attacks. what you don't want to happen is ryan come out of that debate with any kind of victory or clear momentum. because then that feeds that momentum on other side. >> democratic strategist chr
, unemployment rate, the suffering of the american middle class, buried as joe biden reminded us. the policies of barack obama. he turned to the moderator and asked him to change the subject. let's move on to something else. we're not going to move on to something else. this is the issue of the moment. >> at one point during the debate, governor romney acknowledged his plan is basically a voucher program for medicare, and i'm curious how that will go over in florida. >> he acknowledges for current beneficiaries, people on it now or about to retire will have the exact same medicare they've always had. he said for future generations like paul ryan, like me, when we retire, we'll get subsidy support from the government. it will match the level of medicare. if we want to stay on regular mode care, we can do that, or we have a choice. go out and buy private medicare. if you are very rich, my generation, you have to pay a little more. it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/ryan/rubio approac
quite well against joe biden. you could have the situation where they wrap up two debate victories before he gets back on the field. so whether the poll numbers move or not, we'll wait to see, buttal all the other elements you want to see. having the narrative go your way and the grasset reus and your troops be energized. this couldn't have come at a better moment for mitt romney. >> there's been some discussion. the democrats trying to push, the twitter hash tag #testymitt the way he moved around jim lehler. once you take a punch right in the jaurks it takes them some time to get their legs. i expect barack obama to come back in two weeks and be far more effective. but the spin from the democrats, i've got to admit, has been pretty weak. >> if you are in charge of prep for them over the next two weeks, how would you alter strategy, if at all? >> well, the for matt is an interesting one that should play to barack obama's strength. it's a town hall format. you'll see a far more aggressive president and he'll try to put him on defense. the question, really, is it's got to be on issue
where i call you joe. >> reporter: when you think of palin facing off against biden, you're probably more likely to think of this. >> john mccain and i, we're a couple of mavericks. and gosh darn it, we're going to take that maverick energy right to washington and we're going to use it to fix this financial crisis. >> reporter: the real al gore was so stiff in his first debate -- >> i will put medicare and social security in a lockbox. >> reporter: -- his staff made him watch this. >> one of the keys to the lockbox would be kept by the president. >> reporter: the real john mccain wandered around the stage when he debated obama, and so did "snl's" campaign. the parodies aren't just funny. they can matter. >> that's what makes it so powerful. >> reporter: after all, how can the real debate compete with something like this? >> i know the white house. i know the door out to the rose garden doesn't lock unless you pull it. i know the toilet in the lincoln bedroom will run all night unless you jiggle that handle. >> reporter: jonathan karl, abc news, washington. >> you got to jiggle it. >>
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